Courtesy: Rediff.com |July 27, 2017 | http://www.rediff.com/news/interview/to-have-a-war-or-not-is-in-chinese-hands/20170727.htm
'India is
a huge market for Chinese goods. I don't think a war stands to logic when you
have economic compulsions, but then Chinese are known to do illogical things.'
What is
China up to? Does it really want a war with India? Can China ignore the huge
Indian market for Chinese products? Is it just tough Chinese posturing?
Colonel R
Hariharan (retd), a retired Military Intelligence specialist on South
Asia who had served with the Indian Peace Keeping Force in Sri Lanka as head of
intelligence, discusses with Rediff.com's Shobha Warrier what the
standoff between India and China in the Doklam plateau means.
Is China
playing a game right now? If so, what kind of game are they playing?
There are
three ways to look at what is happening. One is from the perspective of the
international environment.
The
second is the bilateral relationship between India and China and the third
angle is the changing strategic equation in South Asia.
Internationally,
after Ukraine was partitioned, there is a growing sentiment in NATO against
Russia supported by the US.
(US
President Donald J) Trump has used this issue to suit his political agenda.
There is a possibility of this confrontation going out of control and in such a
scenario, Moscow needs Beijing as an ally.
China is
a powerful entity, more powerful than ever before. It is competing to be the
number one in the world's economic power engine.
The Belt
and Road Initiative linking China with Europe, through the old Silk Route, is a
success from China's point of view.
The China
Pakistan Economic Corridor is also an important linkage of the Belt and Road
Initiative.
Even in
the South China Sea, a confrontation has been going on and China is not letting
it go.
China has
taken a confrontationist posture against many countries. It did not accept the
judgment of the International Court of Justice when its claims to the South
China Sea was turned down.
So, it is
in this background that we have to look at the overall assertion of Chinese
power.
Why I am
mentioning all this is, we should not see the India-China standoff in Doklam --
which is not even a confrontation -- as an issue that would give rise to a war
or not.
We will
have to look at it from a larger perspective.
The other
issue is the bilateral relations between China and India.
At
present, in Asia, there are three highly assertive leaders: President Xi
Jinping of China, Prime Minister Narendra D Modi of India and Prime Minister
Shinzo Abe of Japan.
All three
harp on nationalism or national identity as a rallying call for the country. Xi
came to power saying he would make the Chinese dream of making China the centre
of the universe a reality.
China has
been under a severe inferiority complex after the opium war and it is trying to
live down the image of the sick man of Asia.
We can
say it has succeeded as progressively it has upgraded the life of the common
man.
Xi has
cleansed the system of corruption, nepotism and cronyism and after 2012, he has
established himself as the strongest man after Mao Zedong and Deng Xiaoping as
the man who controls the government, the army and the Communist party.
Is it the
desire to control the world that has given China this confrontationist
attitude?
No. It is
to restore Chinese pride, you can say.
Japan has
amended the constitution so that it can have an army for the first time after
the second World War.
Japan can
now manufacture and export arms and enter into an alliance with other
countries.
In India,
Modi also has a vision for India with development as the key.
So, you
have these three powers within Asia trying to find space beyond their domain.
The
global economy which was controlled by the US and the European Union, has
shifted now to Asia.
Naturally,
there will be conflict among the three Asian powers.
What does
China want to show India by taking control of India's neighbours like Sri
Lanka, Nepal, Pakistan, etc?
It wants
to reduce India's influence among its neighbours.
You saw
it in Sri Lanka even though the present government is close to India.
You saw
it in Nepal.
You saw
it in Bangladesh.
They have
already established themselves in Pakistan.
Now they
are trying to do it in Bhutan.
China is
wielding its economic power. It is not a direct military confrontation, but a
confrontation to increase its influence.
This is
what is happening in Bhutan where the borders are not properly demarcated. They
have areas which are claimed by both sides and the Doklam plateau is one such
area.
The
Chinese have enormous patience in dealing with foreign powers and they will do
it when it suits them.
So, I do
not expect this to end immediately.
Why is
the Chinese media aggressively attacking India all of a sudden?
You must
remember that it is a State controlled media.
I would
say China has won the propaganda war because as a democracy, we only reproduce
the Chinese claims and counter claims; we have not contradicted the stories.
Is this a
very planned strategy by China?
Of
course, it is. Because of their efforts, now we are so much concerned about
whether there would be a war with China or not.
The
question that I encounter all the time is whether a war would break out
tomorrow.
Personally,
I feel China has succeeded in creating such a hysteria in India though the
Government of India has been trying to negate it.
The other
day, the Government of India issued a statement that there was no additional
build up along the border.
Whatever
the Chinese are doing, they are building up their capability.
Are we
falling into the trap they are digging?
That is
not possible. We know what we are. The issue is whether we can prolong the
issue.
The
Doklam area is a plateau over the valley. It is essential for China as they can
occupy the dominant ground.
It is a
winding mountainous road and the Chinese have constructed 28 km of road and
they are constructing another 22 km. Then they can reach the India-China-Bhutan
tri-junction. This is the crux of the problem.
That is
why (External Affairs Minister) Sushma Swaraj told Parliament that China
is creeping into the tri-junction.
How
dangerous will it be for India as the north east is connected to India through
the corridor?
This
tri-junction is very important for our strategic security point of view because
the closer the Chinese come, it would threaten our Siliguri corridor, which is
about 30 km from there.
It is the
land link between northeast India and the rest of the country.
But this
is not the first time the Chinese are doing such things.
When Xi
came here for the first time in September 2014, and while Modi and Xi were
talking, Chinese troops entered Ladakh and came 1 and ½ kms inside.
So, at
all critical points, China is trying to assert its superiority and there was
some indirect pressure at the top to bring home the Chinese dispensation.
India
allowing the Dalai Lama to visit Arunachal Pradesh was not well taken by them.
Do you
think India is reacting the right way to Chinese aggression?
There is
no right way and wrong way.
When
there is confrontation at the border, it is handled in three ways.
India had
signed a friendship agreement and a standard operating procedure during
Manmohan Singh's time in case the troops enter into confrontation in the border
areas to avoid any military conflict.
So, at
the local level, it is settled between the Chinese troops and the Indian troops
with restraint.
Next is
at the diplomatic level. Our national security advisor is in Beijing to attend
a meeting. There, the issue will be raised.
It will
be a loss of face for India to withdraw troops and China to stop road
construction. So, we have to first defuse the tension.
Can India
afford to take a tough stand against China?
We have
not reached that point.
Internally,
there is a political reshuffle taking place in China.
The
Chinese Communist Party will decide Xi's fate. The next generation leaders will
be picked up at the party congress in the autumn. In August, the top party
leaders will meet at a resort (Beidaihe) near Beijing.
So, I
don't expect any action be taken to upset such an important event by going on a
full-scale war with India.
To have a
war or not is in Chinese hands.
At the
same time Xi also would like to increase his popularity when Chinese nationalism
is on the rise. And the Communist party wants to cash in on that.
But where
they are occupying is not a good place to start a war; it is where India can
surround them from three sides.
As a
military man, my reading is that this kind of skirmishes will continue till September.
What
about the Indian market for Chinese products?
China has
a business of around $70 billion with India. 70% mobile phones in India are
Chinese made. That is why there will be talks to ease the situation.
We heard
from the Chinese side that this will not affect business. India is a huge
market for Chinese goods and they know that.
So, the
fact is, China would not like to have a huge confrontation with India.
Pakistan
as an ally is a great asset for China. That is why it is important for India to
retain friendships with Afghanistan and Iran.
I think
India is acting very correctly as we do not want a war.
Do you
think China would like a war with India?
I don't
think so. India is a huge market for Chinese goods. I don't think it stands to
logic when you have economic compulsions, but then Chinese are known to do
illogical things.
India
will also lose in a war as war is a very unproductive thing.
Do you
think if the skirmishes continue, it will lead to a full-fledged war?
No, I don't
think so.
When
confrontations prolong, skirmishes take place sometimes.
The
Indian Army has fought three wars, but the Chinese army has not fought any war.
Yes, the
Chinese army is modernised. I am not underestimating the Chinese, but it is an
untested force whereas the Indian Army does military exercises in 34 countries.
We have
50 years of experience in operating aircraft carriers. You cannot become an
expert in aircraft carriers in just two years' time. China is a toddler in
international navies, but they are compensating it by missile systems.
They have
developed very good missile systems and very effective submarines. So, if there
is a war, it would not be a Western style war.